Yahoo Auction Revolution

I give up... Yahoo is simply not going take care about it... But being polite, I just wrote them a Thanks for nothing note :

Forget, I presumed you just want to ignore me and hope I will just give up. Will I will. Looks like I put to much hope that Yahoo will do anythign about it.

Thanks for nothing.

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: Winston Avalon
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:46:17 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82935251V43955L0KM)


Hello Winston,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Singapore Auctions.

If Yahoo! believes, in its sole discretion, that there is a violation of
the Yahoo! Auction Terms of Service, Yahoo! reserves the right to edit,
refuse to post, or remove any content in Yahoo! Auctions -- immediately
without notice and for any reason.

For further information on the Yahoo! Auctions Guidelines and Terms of
Service, please visit the following links:

http://sg.yahoo.com/auctions/guidelines.html

http://sg.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Regards,

Alexie
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore
http://sg.yahoo.com

Original Message Follows:
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Again, let me stress its not about the honoring and the bidding terms.
The fact was he bidded, did not response. End of auction.

BUT the issue was that this is the rating he left :

Here is the feedback the buyer, holy2001sg2000, has left on you
(you are not modifying this it is just here for reference):

ORIGINAL Sony NOT Sandisk Memory Stick Duo 64MB (Sep 11 21:34 2006
SGT)Buyer gives Bad Seller rating.Comment:hey
i alr told that i alr brought from ppl n i apologise n wat the f u
talking about?use yr brain n think ,is it i hav to wait for u came bk
from yr holiday stupid ass (Oct 15 16:53 2006 SGT)
PLEASE LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE TONE AND WORDINGS USED BY holy2001sg2000.
IF Yahoo find that this is ok, then I rest my case and I should just
post an insult back to him if Yahoo feel this is the right thing to
encourage. I feel that the least you can do it to at least discourage
people from leaving this type of ratings!!!

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: Winston Avalon
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:54:12 AM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82922385V36422L0KM)

Hello Winston

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

The Yahoo! Auctions Abuse team has reviewed your rating and we have
found no violation of the Yahoo! Terms of Service at this time. For this
reason, we have determined that the rating will remain.

For further details on Yahoo!'s policies, we invite you to visit the
Yahoo! Terms of Service along with the Yahoo! Auctions Guidelines at:

http://sg.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

http://sg.yahoo.com/auctions/guidelines.html

Yahoo! Auctions expects its users to honor their commitments. If you
offer an item for sale and a winning bid is made, or if you bid for an
item and you win, we ask that you complete the transaction. Yahoo! is
not a party to these transactions and is not in a position to force
bidders or sellers to honor their commitments. However, sellers and
bidders who do not complete transactions may be subject to negative
feedback and/or termination of their Yahoo! ID.

Yahoo! seeks to discourage bogus bidding. If you should encounter a
bogus bidder, you have a couple of options. You can cancel their winning
bid and sell to your second place winner, or you can resubmit your
auction.

Here are a few things you can do to try to avoid bogus bidders in future
auctions:

1. Yahoo! Auctions provides sellers the ability to cancel bids in their
auctions at their own discretion. Because you cannot reverse this step,
we advise you to use this tool carefully and only as a last resort. Once
you've removed a bidder, they will be gone from your auction.

** When Should I Use this Feature?

-If you have had repeat problems with someone bidding your auctions and
not following through, you can now delete their bids.

-If you are unable to contact someone because they have changed their
email address, you can cancel their bid.

** How Do I Use This Tool?

-Click on "Manage this auction" on your item page.
-In the Auction Manager, you will see a link to remove bids.
-Click on this and it will take you to a list of all the bidders in your
auction.
-Click on the bidder you wish to remove.

Once a bid has been cancelled, that bidder can no longer participate in
that auction.

2. You may want to check the box to Blacklist this bidder, to prevent
them from bidding on all your future auctions.

3. You can also set the minimum bidder rating when you submit an auction
to prevent bidders from below that rating level from being able to bid
on your auction.

4. Finally, you have the option of leaving negative feedback for the
winning bidder if they do not follow through with the transaction.

It is very important to us that Yahoo! Auctions is a safe place to
participate in Internet commerce and we appreciate your writing to us.
Please feel free to contact us again if you experience future problems
or if you did not find your answer in this message and need further
assistance.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Singapore Customer Care.

Regards,

Zoey
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore


Original Message Follows:
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I understand you cant edit or remove the post, but he buyer is clearly
breaking the rules by insulting and using bad languages? Shouldn't you
at least ban or suspect the user the this type of behaviour? IF not,
everyone will be doing it because its ok.

I am just asking that Yahoo act accordingly to what you have stated in
your rules and not be leniant about upholding it.

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: wavalon@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:50:56 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82912748V67824L0KM)


Hello Yahoo! user,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Singapore Auctions.

We appreciate your comments. Your ratings are a permanent part of your
Auctions profile. In the interest of impartiality, Yahoo! does not edit
ratings or feedback. We encourage you to contact the party that has
given you the negative rating and try to resolve the situation.

If you feel that you have been unfairly rated by a buyer/seller, you can
respond to their rating of you and explain your side of the story. You
may also wish to post feedback regarding that Auction member, as this
will warn others of the potential risks of dealing with them.

It is very important to us that Yahoo! Auctions is a safe place to
participate in Internet commerce and we appreciate your writing to us.
Please feel free to contact us again if you experience future problems
or if you did not find your answer in this message and need further
assistance.

Regards,

Alexie
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore
http://sg.yahoo.com

Original Message Follows:

Yahoo Auctions Resolution 3

This time I am a bit mad. The Yahoo people is getting nowhere. All of them seems to be standard answers. I am starting to guess that Yahoo is actually run by robots. They just reply with standard templates and hope you will give up...

But this doesn't answer my question at all. I want an answer whether Yahoo is going to do anything about it at all. If not, then I should just post an insult back to the user because Yahoo! is OK about this. I will repost the question here, please READ it and don't just reply me with an automaticed answer :

Again, let me stress its not about the honoring and the bidding terms.
The fact was he bidded, did not response. End of auction.
BUT the issue was that this is the rating he left :
Here is the feedback the buyer, holy2001sg2000, has left on you
(you are not modifying this it is just here for reference):
ORIGINAL Sony NOT Sandisk Memory Stick Duo 64MB (Sep 11 21:34 2006
SGT)Buyer gives Bad Seller rating.Comment:hey
i alr told that i alr brought from ppl n i apologise n wat the f u
talking about?use yr brain n think ,is it i hav to wait for u came bk
from yr holiday stupid ass (Oct 15 16:53 2006 SGT)
PLEASE LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE TONE AND WORDINGS USED BY holy2001sg2000.
IF Yahoo find that this is ok, then I rest my case and I should just
post an insult back to him if Yahoo feel this is the right thing to
encourage. I feel that the least you can do it to at least discourage
people from leaving this type of ratings!!!



----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: Winston Avalon
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:46:17 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82935251V43955L0KM)


Hello Winston,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Singapore Auctions.

If Yahoo! believes, in its sole discretion, that there is a violation of
the Yahoo! Auction Terms of Service, Yahoo! reserves the right to edit,
refuse to post, or remove any content in Yahoo! Auctions -- immediately
without notice and for any reason.

For further information on the Yahoo! Auctions Guidelines and Terms of
Service, please visit the following links:

http://sg.yahoo.com/auctions/guidelines.html

http://sg.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Regards,

Alexie
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore
http://sg.yahoo.com

Original Message Follows:
-------------------------

Again, let me stress its not about the honoring and the bidding terms.
The fact was he bidded, did not response. End of auction.

BUT the issue was that this is the rating he left :

Here is the feedback the buyer, holy2001sg2000, has left on you
(you are not modifying this it is just here for reference):

ORIGINAL Sony NOT Sandisk Memory Stick Duo 64MB (Sep 11 21:34 2006
SGT)Buyer gives Bad Seller rating.Comment:hey
i alr told that i alr brought from ppl n i apologise n wat the f u
talking about?use yr brain n think ,is it i hav to wait for u came bk
from yr holiday stupid ass (Oct 15 16:53 2006 SGT)
PLEASE LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE TONE AND WORDINGS USED BY holy2001sg2000.
IF Yahoo find that this is ok, then I rest my case and I should just
post an insult back to him if Yahoo feel this is the right thing to
encourage. I feel that the least you can do it to at least discourage
people from leaving this type of ratings!!!

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: Winston Avalon
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:54:12 AM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82922385V36422L0KM)

Hello Winston

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

The Yahoo! Auctions Abuse team has reviewed your rating and we have
found no violation of the Yahoo! Terms of Service at this time. For this
reason, we have determined that the rating will remain.

For further details on Yahoo!'s policies, we invite you to visit the
Yahoo! Terms of Service along with the Yahoo! Auctions Guidelines at:

http://sg.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

http://sg.yahoo.com/auctions/guidelines.html

Yahoo! Auctions expects its users to honor their commitments. If you
offer an item for sale and a winning bid is made, or if you bid for an
item and you win, we ask that you complete the transaction. Yahoo! is
not a party to these transactions and is not in a position to force
bidders or sellers to honor their commitments. However, sellers and
bidders who do not complete transactions may be subject to negative
feedback and/or termination of their Yahoo! ID.

Yahoo! seeks to discourage bogus bidding. If you should encounter a
bogus bidder, you have a couple of options. You can cancel their winning
bid and sell to your second place winner, or you can resubmit your
auction.

Here are a few things you can do to try to avoid bogus bidders in future
auctions:

1. Yahoo! Auctions provides sellers the ability to cancel bids in their
auctions at their own discretion. Because you cannot reverse this step,
we advise you to use this tool carefully and only as a last resort. Once
you've removed a bidder, they will be gone from your auction.

** When Should I Use this Feature?

-If you have had repeat problems with someone bidding your auctions and
not following through, you can now delete their bids.

-If you are unable to contact someone because they have changed their
email address, you can cancel their bid.

** How Do I Use This Tool?

-Click on "Manage this auction" on your item page.
-In the Auction Manager, you will see a link to remove bids.
-Click on this and it will take you to a list of all the bidders in your
auction.
-Click on the bidder you wish to remove.

Once a bid has been cancelled, that bidder can no longer participate in
that auction.

2. You may want to check the box to Blacklist this bidder, to prevent
them from bidding on all your future auctions.

3. You can also set the minimum bidder rating when you submit an auction
to prevent bidders from below that rating level from being able to bid
on your auction.

4. Finally, you have the option of leaving negative feedback for the
winning bidder if they do not follow through with the transaction.

It is very important to us that Yahoo! Auctions is a safe place to
participate in Internet commerce and we appreciate your writing to us.
Please feel free to contact us again if you experience future problems
or if you did not find your answer in this message and need further
assistance.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Singapore Customer Care.

Regards,

Zoey
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore


Original Message Follows:
-------------------------

I understand you cant edit or remove the post, but he buyer is clearly
breaking the rules by insulting and using bad languages? Shouldn't you
at least ban or suspect the user the this type of behaviour? IF not,
everyone will be doing it because its ok.

I am just asking that Yahoo act accordingly to what you have stated in
your rules and not be leniant about upholding it.

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: wavalon@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:50:56 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82912748V67824L0KM)


Hello Yahoo! user,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Singapore Auctions.

We appreciate your comments. Your ratings are a permanent part of your
Auctions profile. In the interest of impartiality, Yahoo! does not edit
ratings or feedback. We encourage you to contact the party that has
given you the negative rating and try to resolve the situation.

If you feel that you have been unfairly rated by a buyer/seller, you can
respond to their rating of you and explain your side of the story. You
may also wish to post feedback regarding that Auction member, as this
will warn others of the potential risks of dealing with them.

It is very important to us that Yahoo! Auctions is a safe place to
participate in Internet commerce and we appreciate your writing to us.
Please feel free to contact us again if you experience future problems
or if you did not find your answer in this message and need further
assistance.

Regards,

Alexie
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore
http://sg.yahoo.com

Original Message Follows:

Yahoo Auction Resolution 2

So, its like I got bounce here and there by different officers. Here is the next response :

Again, let me stress its not about the honoring and the bidding terms. The fact was he bidded, did not response. End of auction.

BUT the issue was that this is the rating he left :

Here is the feedback the buyer, holy2001sg2000, has left on you
(you are not modifying this it is just here for reference):

ORIGINAL Sony NOT Sandisk Memory Stick Duo 64MB (Sep 11 21:34 2006 SGT)Buyer gives Bad Seller rating.Comment:hey
i alr told that i alr brought from ppl n i apologise n wat the f u
talking about?use yr brain n think ,is it i hav to wait for u came bk
from yr holiday stupid ass (Oct 15 16:53 2006 SGT)
PLEASE LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE TONE AND WORDINGS USED BY holy2001sg2000. IF Yahoo find that this is ok, then I rest my case and I should just post an insult back to him if Yahoo feel this is the right thing to encourage. I feel that the least you can do it to at least discourage people from leaving this type of ratings!!!

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: Winston Avalon
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:54:12 AM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82922385V36422L0KM)

Hello Winston

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

The Yahoo! Auctions Abuse team has reviewed your rating and we have
found no violation of the Yahoo! Terms of Service at this time. For this
reason, we have determined that the rating will remain.

For further details on Yahoo!'s policies, we invite you to visit the
Yahoo! Terms of Service along with the Yahoo! Auctions Guidelines at:

http://sg.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

http://sg.yahoo.com/auctions/guidelines.html

Yahoo! Auctions expects its users to honor their commitments. If you
offer an item for sale and a winning bid is made, or if you bid for an
item and you win, we ask that you complete the transaction. Yahoo! is
not a party to these transactions and is not in a position to force
bidders or sellers to honor their commitments. However, sellers and
bidders who do not complete transactions may be subject to negative
feedback and/or termination of their Yahoo! ID.

Yahoo! seeks to discourage bogus bidding. If you should encounter a
bogus bidder, you have a couple of options. You can cancel their winning
bid and sell to your second place winner, or you can resubmit your
auction.

Here are a few things you can do to try to avoid bogus bidders in future
auctions:

1. Yahoo! Auctions provides sellers the ability to cancel bids in their
auctions at their own discretion. Because you cannot reverse this step,
we advise you to use this tool carefully and only as a last resort. Once
you've removed a bidder, they will be gone from your auction.

** When Should I Use this Feature?

-If you have had repeat problems with someone bidding your auctions and
not following through, you can now delete their bids.

-If you are unable to contact someone because they have changed their
email address, you can cancel their bid.

** How Do I Use This Tool?

-Click on "Manage this auction" on your item page.
-In the Auction Manager, you will see a link to remove bids.
-Click on this and it will take you to a list of all the bidders in your
auction.
-Click on the bidder you wish to remove.

Once a bid has been cancelled, that bidder can no longer participate in
that auction.

2. You may want to check the box to Blacklist this bidder, to prevent
them from bidding on all your future auctions.

3. You can also set the minimum bidder rating when you submit an auction
to prevent bidders from below that rating level from being able to bid
on your auction.

4. Finally, you have the option of leaving negative feedback for the
winning bidder if they do not follow through with the transaction.

It is very important to us that Yahoo! Auctions is a safe place to
participate in Internet commerce and we appreciate your writing to us.
Please feel free to contact us again if you experience future problems
or if you did not find your answer in this message and need further
assistance.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Singapore Customer Care.

Regards,

Zoey
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore


Original Message Follows:
-------------------------

I understand you cant edit or remove the post, but he buyer is clearly
breaking the rules by insulting and using bad languages? Shouldn't you
at least ban or suspect the user the this type of behaviour? IF not,
everyone will be doing it because its ok.

I am just asking that Yahoo act accordingly to what you have stated in
your rules and not be leniant about upholding it.

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: wavalon@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:50:56 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82912748V67824L0KM)


Hello Yahoo! user,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Singapore Auctions.

We appreciate your comments. Your ratings are a permanent part of your
Auctions profile. In the interest of impartiality, Yahoo! does not edit
ratings or feedback. We encourage you to contact the party that has
given you the negative rating and try to resolve the situation.

If you feel that you have been unfairly rated by a buyer/seller, you can
respond to their rating of you and explain your side of the story. You
may also wish to post feedback regarding that Auction member, as this
will warn others of the potential risks of dealing with them.

It is very important to us that Yahoo! Auctions is a safe place to
participate in Internet commerce and we appreciate your writing to us.
Please feel free to contact us again if you experience future problems
or if you did not find your answer in this message and need further
assistance.

Regards,

Alexie
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore
http://sg.yahoo.com

Original Message Follows:
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Mail-Id: 1160977310-9746

Auction ID Number or URL?
http://ratings.auctions.yahoo.com/sg/rconfig/leavefeedback?cc=sg&cc=sg&t=holy2001sg2000&aID=101132272&logininwinnerslist=0&targetinwinnerslist=1&role=0&catid=2092063498&endtime=1157981684&starttime=1157344216&curprice=20.00&author=wavalon&title=ORIGINAL+Sony+NOT+Sandisk+Memory+Stick+Duo+64MB&cacheid=8fRoZ8uDbUMzdlpuCzV7w&;;;

What do you feel is the violation?
Excessive Profanity

Type your feedback here:
I find the buyer very rude and the calling of
names and insult is truly unacceptable. I hope
Yahoo will look into this and deal with it
accordingly. Please update me on the follow up.

Yahoo Auction Resolution

I understand you cant edit or remove the post, but he buyer is clearly breaking the rules by insulting and using bad languages? Shouldn't you at least ban or suspect the user the this type of behaviour? IF not, everyone will be doing it because its ok.

I am just asking that Yahoo act accordingly to what you have stated in your rules and not be leniant about upholding it.

----- Original Message ----
From: Yahoo! Singapore
To: wavalon@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:50:56 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse - Excessive Profanity (KMM82912748V67824L0KM)


Hello Yahoo! user,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Singapore Auctions.

We appreciate your comments. Your ratings are a permanent part of your
Auctions profile. In the interest of impartiality, Yahoo! does not edit
ratings or feedback. We encourage you to contact the party that has
given you the negative rating and try to resolve the situation.

If you feel that you have been unfairly rated by a buyer/seller, you can
respond to their rating of you and explain your side of the story. You
may also wish to post feedback regarding that Auction member, as this
will warn others of the potential risks of dealing with them.

It is very important to us that Yahoo! Auctions is a safe place to
participate in Internet commerce and we appreciate your writing to us.
Please feel free to contact us again if you experience future problems
or if you did not find your answer in this message and need further
assistance.

Regards,

Alexie
Senior Customer Care Specialist
Yahoo! Singapore
http://sg.yahoo.com

Original Message Follows:
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Mail-Id: 1160977310-9746
One of hte user had used bad languages and was very rude about the comments after I gave him a bad rating... So I thought this is a good chance for me to test out Yahoo service to see if they tolerate this type of BS. So, here is the first response to Yahoo about the comment:


Auction ID Number or URL?
http://ratings.auctions.yahoo.com/sg/rconfig/leavefeedback?cc=sg&cc=sg&t=holy2001sg2000&aID=101132272&logininwinnerslist=0&targetinwinnerslist=1&role=0&catid=2092063498&endtime=1157981684&starttime=1157344216&curprice=20.00&author=wavalon&title=ORIGINAL+Sony+NOT+Sandisk+Memory+Stick+Duo+64MB&cacheid=8fRoZ8uDbUMzdlpuCzV7w&;;

What do you feel is the violation?
Excessive Profanity

Type your feedback here:
I find the buyer very rude and the calling of
names and insult is truly unacceptable. I hope
Yahoo will look into this and deal with it
accordingly. Please update me on the follow up.

Mozilla is definitely (not) safer!

A pictures say a 1000 words. Where is IE?

Virus at Play during lab lesson

Recently I attended a security related vendor lab training session and to be surprise I got a nasty present from the network when I am connected. There was a virus running loose in the classeroom and it has attempted (actually managed) to write itself to whichever share it can find. Not bad at all. I got tons of the same file in different folders and name all 81,920 bytes. OK, lets not worry what virus this is because my AOL (actually its Kaspersky) Antivirus has found it and killed it on the spot. It was fortunately I was armed even though this was my crappy P3 1.0Ghz office notebook. Imagine what if I wasn't.

Anyway, the point was that it was a strange incident becaused I had never attended a class with virus infection running around. I must bear this in mind that I will take extra caution when it comes to my turns. Hai, thats not a virus, its just Ethereal... What? No la, I am just doing you a favor by scanning your computer for you... What? Oh, Internet banking? Can, can. No problem, there is internet here...

( Hee, Hee, Hee...)

So far I have watched till Episode 20. Some of the concept is pretty cool, especially if taken from the point of view of the creator of Macross. Anyway, some of them are pretty funny as well. For example, the one episode about dieting. However, I would like to comment on Episode 19, which the artwork is horribly. Yes, not just the virtual world, look at the real world part, the drawing are like fan arts! They must had tried with their students or something. Anyway, that was the worst episode so far. So let me finish this and I will have more to say about it.

NanShin! Gataii! Go~AQUARION!!!

The sound of Silent

I had talked so much about it and now I really have some thoughts about the script for this movie. It will definitely be something very new for me. The title suggests, its already a very controversial movie about the world of a deaf boy and how he imagine sound in this world will sound to him.

The story will probably be so much more peaceful than the other ones I had planned. So, you can say this is a big shift from my normal violent style to a more artistic kinda of view of life.

Of course you can rest assure I would take this chance to bash the world about how noisy and everything this world has become today. Then again, just answer me this question : When was it you last had silent? Did you not hear the sound of silent then? If you cannot remember, then is deaf a penalty? Or perhaps was it a gift instead?